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LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 02:35 PM

This is my first post so excuse me if it is in the wrong place. Some guy asked my hubby if he wanted a bird about 6 months ago, he said fine and here he came home with a cockatoo.. beautiful.. all white orange under her head feathers, I am not sure what kind she/he is, or if it is a boy or girl. He/she hated us all untill about 2 months ago I gave him/her a shower.. now it loves me and only me! so now I have questions and i will list them:
Is it normal when you give them a shower (still in cage, we have not got far enough I feel comfortable taking him out) that he streches out his wings, dances then acts like he is falling asleep on his perch under the water? He will stay there forever under the water acting like he is asleep and i dont want him to drown..lol next

when i am around him he is always clicking and dancing (bobbing head up and down) wanting me to pet him but when i stop he screams for attention.. i am flattered but i cant stand there all day. and i know he wants out of his cage, but i am still nervous till i find somewhere to clip his wings.

next is when i pet his back lately he starts shaking and makeing these funny noises.. I think i know why.. but is that normal..
how do i tell if it is a male or female?

thats all my questions for now.. sorry i am just so new to this and i just want the best for my bird.. he/she is so sweet now..lol
thanks,
lisa

TikiTalks

03-13-2008, 02:40 PM

Lisa, you may want to post a picture to give us a better idea of what TYPE of 2 we're working with.

too&me

03-13-2008, 02:46 PM

First off welcome the flock.:welcome: Sounds like it may be a Triton or a Citron. I am glad you have a better relationship with the bird now & it is good of you to take him into your home. Now it sounds like his/her hormones are racing this spring. Do you know how old this bird is? What color are his eyes, knowing that may help us know if you have a boy or a girl, from the part about him liking you I think maybe a male.

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 02:56 PM

he/she looks just like the one in me&toos picture.. when you get him wet you can see orange on his head.. i just looked at his eyes they are real dark brown almost black and little orange cheeks.. i just took a real good look at him.. I dont think whoever had him before me took good care of him , he is missing some nails.. ( i dont think that is natural) I will try to post a picture of him soon.. dog chewed up my cable i need to transfer pics..lol..

any idea on the shower part.. is it normal for them to act like they are going to sleep under the water?

thanks for your responses this helps so much. i wish i found you all sooner! I need to learn as much about him as i can..

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 02:57 PM

oh i forgot, his beak is not as dark as your pic.. it is really light.. i dont know if that helps..

too&me

03-13-2008, 03:01 PM

Could you have a Cockatiel? They are normally grey with a yellow crest & orange cheeks but come in many colors including white.

too&me

03-13-2008, 03:02 PM

http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m4/2932111105This is a white Cockatiel, is this your bird?
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Evelyn

03-13-2008, 03:05 PM

Lisa -

First, welcome to HappyBirdy!

Second, you posted in the correct place.

The "headfeathers" on a cockatoo are his crest, which he can raise or lower at will. Raising it could signify that he is frightened, or mad, or interested.

Is there any color on your too other than on his crest and possibly under the wings? If he/she is a large bird, and there is bright orange or peachy orange on his crest and peach shadings elsewhere, you have a Moluccan, one of the largest toos.

If it is a very small too and the crest yellow, you have a Lesser Sulfur Crested.

If your too is medium sized, and the crest is yellow or slightly orange you could have a Medium Sulfur-crested (also called an Eleanora cockatoo) or a Triton.

THere is also a Greater Sulfur-crested, which is almost as large as a Moluccan, but I doubt you have one of those.

All of the bove fall into the "White Cockatoo" category. There are also Rose-breasted cockatoos (medium sized and grey with a rosy-pink breast); several black cookatoos; Major Mitchell's cockatoo which is less common that the other whites. It has a very unusual crest.

You can go on line and search for cockatoos and find more than you will ever have time to read. If you haven't had a bird before, you should go on-line anyway and learn about what foods, substances, fumes, inside and outside plants are toxic to birds. For example, if you overheat teflon or use your self-cleaning feature of your stove, you will kill them very quickly. I threw all of my teflon cookware out so there would be no danger I would accidently overheat it.

If your bird has black eyes and you can't see the pupil, then it all liklihood it is a male. If the eyes are brown and you can see the pupil, then it's probably a female. If you are curious, you can have your vet "sex" the bird (send off a sample, usually blood, for a DNA test).

Don't take your bird to a vet who does practice avian medicine. An avian-certified bet is best; but if there is not one in your area, at least make sure that he sees a lot of bird.

Your too's reaction when you pet his back is exactly what you think it is. It is best not to pet anywhere other than his head, cheeks, under his chin, and neck. When you pet him elsewhere you are sexually stimulating him, and that will frustrate him.

Others will be along with more advice. Enjoy your new bird!

Evelyn

birdie

03-13-2008, 03:05 PM

Lisa, :welcome: with just a description to me it sounds like a triton. Is this your 1st bird? looking forward to sharing stories.
Am I reading corectly? Have you taken your bird out of it's cage? If you act scared he/she will pick up on that. Have you tried opening the cage door and letting him come out on his own?
I would suggest getting the parrot problem solver book and reading on what to expect from your bird. here's a link..

http://goodbirdinc.com/books.html

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 03:22 PM

no he is not a cockatiel.. we had one of those in the house my whole life.. he looks just like the one in your pic only a lighter beak and you can hardly see the orange in his cheeks unless you look real close.. he is tall and fat i know he is a cockatoo cuz someone told me what kind he was, i just dont remember. This is my first time ever having a large bird..

under his headfeather you can see a peachy orange..same with cheeks.. then underneath his tail feathers it is real light yellow, the rest of him is white.

oh eww. now i feel bad about petting him.. he dont always do that, just sometimes and when he does i stop and walk away.. i figured but not sure as he just started doing that recently.

i love the clicking noise he makes...and he always wants to rub his beak on the palm of my hand.. almost like a game.. and he dances all the time.. It was very hard to find any color in his eyes.. they look jet black but if you look at them hard enough i think you can see brown.. lol who knows.. i will assume it is a male then! thanks so much!

too&me

03-13-2008, 03:28 PM

Glad to help & looking forward to your pictures. Let us know how he is doing & it should be ok to pet his head & cheeks with out causing any excitement. Spray baths & showers are good for them it helps keep the feathers & skin healthy just be careful to not get him chilled. Hope to hear how he does as he adjusts to your household. There is a lot of good information here if you take some time to read through the threads.

bonnie

03-13-2008, 03:34 PM

Hello and welcome to HB! I am SO glad you have decided to get help with your baby!
Now, in my opinion, you have a Moluccan. This is what I have so I can help you. I'll post a pic. It sounds to me like he/she really likes you and LOVES showers. Showering at least once a week is a must. Once we find out what kind of bird it is exactly, we can start working on/with everything else. Tell me if the following pic is your bird please.

Don

03-13-2008, 03:48 PM

Hi Lisa, we need to see a pic, or it's just a guesing game. The dark eyes are indicative of a male. As for your interaction and his responses, there is nothing wrong imho with him wanting to be your pet, and it is very common for any of the white cockatoo species to become a one person bird (a 1 man dog) so to say. I'd say do what you find makes him happy and handleable and enjoy your pet.
We do need a picture tho - really :)
Don
donsbirds.com

Larry, Baby and Me

03-13-2008, 03:55 PM

Hi Lisa,

What is your bird's name?

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 04:00 PM

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 04:01 PM

ha ha I have not named him due to the fact i did not know if it was male of female.. I usualy call him sexy.. cuz he/she is always struttin or fixin her/his feathers... lol

too&me

03-13-2008, 04:04 PM

Too cute!:dancered:

Don

03-13-2008, 04:20 PM

If your bird is a Moluccan, using the eye to determine gender is a bit less subtle - can you take a small flashlight and shine the eye, as Moluccan hens have rather dark eyes but will show brown when lit up. Btw, Moluccans are not usually white, they are pink(ish), and their crests are a decidely strong salmon color, not orange(ish). I still want to see a picture of your bird.

Don

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 04:33 PM

YES that looks just like him only his beak is not as dark..and his tummy is a little whiter , i called my hubby and he asked his friend that was over here and yes it is a moluccan!! thanks for the pics.. whew glad to finaly get that done..lol I dont know how i could forget that.. thanks

Hi there and welcome to our cozy nest! I'm trying to catch up on this thread. just for the record, if the beak of your bird is not black or dark grey, it is not a M2. If the beak is tan colored and he has orange coloring under his head feathers he is either a bare eyed cockatoo or a goffins cockatoo.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Foxersartist/Brag%20Photos/CuddleBug.jpg
Just so we are all on the same page, clarify that he does have a dark colored beak and not a tan one like this little guy here.

I think the most important thing that can be done is to have your bird seen by an avian vet as soon as possible to have a wellness check and also to get his wings clipped so that you can start taking him out of his cage. Progress can only be made to a certain degree with him stuck in a cage! If he is friendly enough to let you pet him through the bars, that's a really good sign and he may be willing to come out for you. As far as the shivering when you touch his back - i would try to avoid touching his back if it continues, if you think he is getting too worked up. For now, see if you can offer him tasty little treats through the cage bars and try to butter him up as much as possible whilewe are waiting to have his wings clipped.
-Anna

Julie

03-13-2008, 04:58 PM

Anna,

You blew up the board! Well my screen in minimized at work and that picture blew up my whole HB set up..... LOL

I love that photo of you and Benny boy, he is such a snuggly mr fluffy pants just like Carl! He'z my secret other favorite (dont tell baby though she'll come and get me)!

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 05:01 PM

Oops! :D Sorry! I was trying to put emphasis on the orange feathers benny has. Think it worked? ;)
-Anna
Anna,

You blew up the board! Well my screen in minimized at work and that picture blew up my whole HB set up..... LOL

I love that photo of you and Benny boy, he is such a snuggly mr fluffy pants just like Carl! He'z my secret other favorite (dont tell baby though she'll come and get me)!

Chrissy and Flock

03-13-2008, 05:15 PM

Oops! :D Sorry! I was trying to put emphasis on the orange feathers benny has. Think it worked? ;)
-Anna
Yea I think it did ... :haha:

Julie

03-13-2008, 05:23 PM

Yes, our boys sure do have beautiful orange around thier face. This has to be an old photo, cause I think benny has more orange now.

bonnie

03-13-2008, 05:34 PM

Yes, I agree with Anna. Your bird needs to be taken to a certified avian vet. They HAVE to be an avian vet, the others just won't do. You'll be able to have blood drawn to determine sex. I have a rescued Moluccan myself and have been through the screaming issue so I will help you the best I can. If you have any questions about anything, start asking and we will all do our best!

Don

03-13-2008, 05:52 PM

""You'll be able to have blood drawn to determine sex. ""

Zoogen or Avian Biotec are very good, and will send you a test kit if you go to either of their websites and ask them to send one, or more, to you.

I really don't think an Vet of any kind needs to do this as it is overly expensiver to involve them for such a simple thing.

Don

bonnie

03-13-2008, 06:11 PM

ha ha I have not named him due to the fact i did not know if it was male of female.. I usualy call him sexy.. cuz he/she is always struttin or fixin her/his feathers... lol

Do you have any idea what they called him? I changed my bird's name because his former owners had named him bad a*s. If the bird already has a decent name it goes by, it may be easier to stick with that. Just a thought...

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 06:23 PM

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 06:33 PM

If i was to take a pic of the bird from the side and compare it to yours it would match to a T except around the eye.. the feather are all the way around the eye but the colors are identical.. sorry i dont have a picture to post... I will post one when i get one. I do know that is what the man called him.. but I guess I have no idea.. sorry
It sounds to me like you have a goffins cockatoo. The cockatoo in the photo I provided was a bare eyed cockatoo which looks very similar to the goffins, only the bare eyed had a patch of skin around the eye and the goffins does not. I was thinking "goffins" as soon as you said you saw orange under his feathers on his head. Here is a goffins cockatoo, though in pretty bad feather condition (look out julie):
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Foxersartist/Fosters/Natalie.jpg
Here is another with a little more pink in her body:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Foxersartist/Fosters/Carie.jpg
Do either of those look like your bird? If so, you havea goffins cockatoo. They are smaller than some of the other species, like the moluccan cockatoo and umbrella cockatoo and usually a little bit more manageable. They are typically quite clownish and playful, though many of them like to be cuddled as well. They are a bit more independent than some of the other cockatoo species and their owners quite often describe them as mischievious.
Julie - that photo of benny was old...June or last year i think. all his feathers were still missing.
-Anna

Don

03-13-2008, 06:43 PM

Lisa, go here http://www.donsbirds.com/babies.html and scroll down to the Goffins Cockatoo, hold the curser point on the picture and it should give a couple of different views of this species. Let us know :)

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 06:47 PM

Thanks don...your pictures are much better looking than the ones I had. Those poor goffins came from the same home as benny boy.
-Anna
Lisa, go here http://www.donsbirds.com/babies.html and scroll down to the Goffins Cockatoo, hold the curser point on the picture and it should give a couple of different views of this species. Let us know :)

Don

03-13-2008, 07:02 PM

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 07:36 PM

FOXERSARTIST the second bird is an identical match to mine!!! EXACTLY!

THANKS!

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 07:46 PM

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 07:55 PM

Hi Anna, do you think the feather folicles are destroyed or have you seen signs of them regrowing. It looks to me like overpreening, which is a really bad habit even some healthy birds can get into.

Don
Don, both of those birds came from really dirty conditions and had been fed a poor diet. The goffins with feather damage on her head was because she was housed in a 'tiel cage with my soon-to-be bare eyed too, benny boy. He plucked himself and her. Both birds came into beautiful feather with an improved diet and lots of bathing. We seperated the bare eyed and the goffins and her head feathers grew back.
-Anna

Don

03-13-2008, 07:57 PM

'We seperated the bare eyed and the goffins and her head feathers'

That is great, so many times the damage is permanent - you done good :)

Btw, I got a Goffin egg yesterday :)

Don

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 07:59 PM

He is very very playful, but he makes me laugh all the time! I ran out of the bedding we use in his cage so i used plane white copy paper in the bottom and omg.. he is acting like he is 2. lifting it up and hiding under it.. messing it up... love it.. Its nice when you get a pet (I hate using that word cuz they are more like family) that brings you so much joy!
Congratulations, you're the proud new parront of a goffins cockatoo: perpetual 2 year old. Cockatoos can be extremely difficult pets to live with and understand, so please stick around and feel free to ask any questions you may have. copy paper is fine, newspaper is fine, don't buy any more of that bedding.
-Anna

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 08:01 PM

'We seperated the bare eyed and the goffins and her head feathers'

That is great, so many times the damage is permanent - you done good :)

Btw, I got a Goffin egg yesterday :)

Don
la la la...i'm not listening. I can't have anymore birds!...oh, but yours look sooo sweet! ;)
-Anna

Don

03-13-2008, 08:04 PM

Goffins Cockatoo aka Goofy too a name they earn daily !!!

Don

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 08:43 PM

SO the corn cob bedding stuff is bad? thats what came with the bird so I figured that was what I was suspost to do... I like the paper, but he loves to tear it up.. can you tell me if it is normal for them to ( after playing around a little) relax on there perch in the shower.. he looks like he could fall asleep... it is so cute.. I got worried and took the water off of him (put it on the other side of the cage) and he acted like he got mad and went to the other side and got back under the water... He gets real low and leans forward and closes his eyes... It is real cute, but I just dont want to do something wrong.. and he will stay in there for a long time.. Is that normal also?

thanks you guys, I know my question are probably getting annoying
Lisa

Larry, Baby and Me

03-13-2008, 08:56 PM

...relax on there perch in the shower.. he looks like he could fall asleep... I got worried and took the water off of him (put it on the other side of the cage)Lisa

Lisa,

I am not sure what you are trying to say here with the water/shower.

You say, relax on the perch in the shower. Do you mean in the shower or in his cage???

You got worried and took the water off him and put it on the other side of the cage. What do you mean by that? Please describe what you do to shower him.

Also -- Use newspaper for bedding - nothing else.

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 09:13 PM

i have to put the cage in the shower as I have not taken him out cuz i have not got his wings clipped so i angle the water so it is only on one side of the cage so that if he dont want to get under the water he dont have to... but he loves it.. then he always sits on his ( whatever you call the stick that goes across the cage) i thought it was a perch and shuts his eyes and leans forward a little like he is very relaxed.. I dont think it is anything bad.. he acts like he enjoys it..

ha ha I am a dork.. i just realized i am probably the only one who has not taken my bird out of the cage..lol so thats why it dont make sence.. yes I put the WHOLE cage in the shower.. lol I am calling around tomorrow to find the right kind of vet to take him to.

Will it tramatize him to go to the vet? I am scared it will mess up all the progress we have had so far. He needs the works!

Don

03-13-2008, 09:18 PM

""SO the corn cob bedding stuff is bad?""

Yes, it can become moldy very easily. If a bird injests it, it can imact the crop and/or gizzard, and that is usually fatal.

I too use the newspaper for cage bottoms, and wadded up balls of it for some birds destructive mania times :) Plus it gets delivered fresh daily :)

Don

Don

03-13-2008, 09:19 PM

whatever you call the stick that goes across the cage)

You can all it a perch, even tho it isn't fishy..........

Diane, Clouds assignment

03-13-2008, 09:19 PM

Don, I love your birdy pictures on your website. Have you ever raised Blue-throated Macaws?

FoxersArtist

03-13-2008, 09:22 PM

My very first thought here is that if your bird's cage will fit into your shower, you either have a gigantic shower or your poor little bird is long over due for a much, much larger cage. Ideal size for that type of bird is about 3ft X 4ft X 6ft tall.

Sometimes when parrots get a little stressed, they act very calm like you are discribing and almost look like they want to go to sleep. If the bird does this for nor forseen reason and for long periods of time, I would suspect illness. As long as the bird isn't frantically trying to get away while you shower him, I would think that he is at least somewhat appreciative, though I would not allow him to be under the water for more than a minute or so - just long enough to give him a nice soak. Make sure his cage is in a warm place once he is removed from the shower so that he does not get a chill.
Good luck at the vets.
-Anna
i have to put the cage in the shower as I have not taken him out cuz i have not got his wings clipped so i angle the water so it is only on one side of the cage so that if he dont want to get under the water he dont have to... but he loves it.. then he always sits on his ( whatever you call the stick that goes across the cage) i thought it was a perch and shuts his eyes and leans forward a little like he is very relaxed.. I dont think it is anything bad.. he acts like he enjoys it..

ha ha I am a dork.. i just realized i am probably the only one who has not taken my bird out of the cage..lol so thats why it dont make sence.. yes I put the WHOLE cage in the shower.. lol I am calling around tomorrow to find the right kind of vet to take him to.

Will it tramatize him to go to the vet? I am scared it will mess up all the progress we have had so far. He needs the works!

LTNLISA

03-13-2008, 09:27 PM

i have a HUGE walk in shower.. sorry for not mentioning that.. and it is a chore to move the cage.. but he needs a shower.. ok thanks guys.. i wont bug ya anymore tonight :)

Don

03-13-2008, 09:28 PM

""Have you ever raised Blue-throated Macaws?""

Yes, I had friends with multiple pairs and I hand fed a couple out a few years ago. Wonderful birds !!

Don

Uncle

03-13-2008, 10:00 PM

Hi Lisa,

Goffins are about the best birds there are. Congradulations.

For health and behavior reasons you should find out some history about your bird. Here are some thing you must find out from your husband's friend...

1. Where did he get the bird? (breeder, pet store, etc).

2. How old is the bird?

3. What vet did he take the bird to?

4. What tests did the vet do on the bird?

5. Why did he give up the bird?

6. What things did he feed the bird? (Please be specific).

7. What did your husband's friend name the bird?

Now - some questions for you...

1. Do you have small children in the house? Some parrots do not behave well around small children.

2. Do you have any other pets in your house? Some pets of the furry kind can harm a bird if not properly supervised.

3. What do you feed the bird (Please be specific).

4. What are you going to name your bird?

Please answer the questions as best you can -- as this will aid us in directing you to best care for your bird.

Diane, Clouds assignment

03-13-2008, 10:18 PM

""Have you ever raised Blue-throated Macaws?""

Yes, I had friends with multiple pairs and I hand fed a couple out a few years ago. Wonderful birds !!

Don

Had I been introduced to this wonderful world of birds 30 years ago and knew then what I know now, I think I would have gotten a baby BTM. I also would probably have a couple Goffins, Blue and Golds, Green Cheeks and Sun Conures, a Hyacinthe, CAGs and TAGS and . . . well . . . you get the picture. Whenever I fantasize about getting a baby (BTM), I start to feel guilty about all the older birds that need good homes, but I do enjoy dreaming about it. Gotta go I feel an attack of NEBS coming on.

Evelyn

03-13-2008, 10:21 PM

whatever you call the stick that goes across the cage)

You can all it a perch, even tho it isn't fishy..........

:rofl: :haha: :rofl:

Evelyn

Don

03-13-2008, 10:33 PM

Hi Diane, I doubt you could have gotten a BTM 30 years ago unless you knew Bernie Levine in Florida, and had lots of $$, he was the first to breed them in captivity - very pricey birds, and still one of the most expensive Ara species.

'NEB' - someday I'll share the origin of that :)

Diane, Clouds assignment

03-13-2008, 11:06 PM

Good thing my dreams have no monetary constraints. And I like hearing your stories.

TikiTalks

03-14-2008, 10:17 AM

ooooha goffins eggggiiiiee! Now that I'm moving into a house I've been considering what type of "larger" non-extinct avian dinosour (thanks Dot!) I'd want in my house! Lol. I've come up with either a BE2, or G2 that would be a great fit, unless anna wouldn't mind me borrowing both benny's once in awhile! LOL. They could have their own bedroom!

Birdlover

03-14-2008, 01:12 PM

Lisa, just out of curiosity, what are the measurements of his cage?

Goffins are wonderful Toos, my absolute favorite actually. I hope we can help you with your guy. It sounds like he is a pretty sweet Too. How does he scare you? Are you just worried about him flying?

I hope you can locate a good avian vet. Thats the best bet for you to get his wings trimmed. It is important that it is done properly so he doesnt get hurt if he tries to fly. Where abouts are you located? Maybe someone here can hep you find a vet.

LTNLISA

03-14-2008, 03:43 PM

Ok.. I am taking my bird to the vet today.. so no worries.. I joined this group to seek some answers to stuff and I am sorry I caused so much crap.. not intended.. My bird is not in any harm.. she is not in a tiny cage so no ( poor bird ), I am just scared cuz her wings are not clipped and i dont want her flying off or worse getting hurt. True I have a lot to learn, but I am not stupid. Thanks to those who helped and I am glad I gave some of you a laugh ( ref. to my bird sitting on a perch) sorry if my spelling is off, sorry i waisted your time.. we will be fine I will find answers elsewhere.. I did not come here to feel stupid or that i am not providing what i need for my bird.. I came here to understand my bird so that I may do better for her....

ok you may let the bashing begin.... I wont be posting anymore.. thanks

Uncle

03-14-2008, 03:52 PM

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