We Need A Name

[FoxersArtist]

Andy and I are in the process of applying for our 501c3, non profit status but in order to qualify we need a name. Up until now we have just been "Anna & Andy," or "that couple who has a bunch of birds." We would like to have a name with the word "rescue" in it or something that similarly conveys that we are a rescue. Help me out everyone, I have no idea what to call us!
-Anna

[Dot]

"Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and wrong because sometime in your life you will have been all of these."

I love your signature. How about using some of those words? The TCSandT Rescue seems long to me. Why not choose a couple of them? Nah. I like The TCST Rescue.

[too&me]

Rio Rancho Parrot Rescue has a nice ring to it., or Soft Landings Exotic Bird Rescue & Rehab. Anna & Andys' Parrot Landing?

[Julie]

Rio Rancho Parrot Rescue has a nice ring to it., or Soft Landings Exotic Bird Rescue & Rehab. Anna & Andys' Parrot Landing?

How about a spin of on both of these..... AA Parrot Rescue & Rehab, with the AA (Andy & Anna), it always makes you the top of the list in the yellow/white/internet pages....

[Evelyn]

How about a spin of on both of these..... AA Parrot Rescue & Rehab, with the AA (Andy & Anna), it always makes you the top of the list in the yellow/white/internet pages....


The first thing I thought of with the "AA" was Alcoholics Anonymous.

My opinion is that short and sweet is better. "Phoenix Landing" and "The Gabriel Foundation" come to mind, but neither says anything about the purpose.

The name should be different enough from other organizations so as not to be confused with them. It would be the kiss of death to have a name similar to one of these faux rescue groups that front for getting free birds to resell or breed. I suggest you do an internet search for any names you consider before choosing one.

It would be nice if the initials of the words in the name made a word relating to parrot rescue.

A possibility would be to name it after a particular memorable bird. "Phoenix Landing" is named after one of the founder's birds. So is "Gabriel Foundation."

Can't think of anything at the moment, but will work on it.

Of course, you could pre-empt Larry and call it HappyBirdy Rescue & Adoption. (Only kidding, Larry).

Evelyn

[too&me]

then just Soft Landing

[Evelyn]

then just Soft Landing



I think this is PERFECT!

You could add a line under the name "Exotic bird rescue, rehabilitation and rehoming." or something like that.

That is such a great name! How about some ideas for the title of the book? Something that is going to catch the eye and make somebody pick it up to look inside?

Evelyn

[too&me]

I think this is PERFECT!



That is such a great name! How about some ideas for the title of the book? Something that is going to catch the eye and make somebody pick it up to look inside?

Evelyn Maybe "Feathered Hearts" if we are not using "Happy Birdy Book".

[Evelyn]

Maybe "Feathered Hearts" if we are not using "Happy Birdy Book".


I like that, too.

Evelyn

[Evelyn]

We haven't talked much about the cover. It will be a book jacket, and we will have the front cover, front flap, back and back flap, all of which will be in color. The photos inside will also be in color, except if Anna wants her illustrations in B&W.

I haven't given it a great deal of thought either, but one idea I had was to have a badly plucked, or otherwise obviously handicapped parrot in one corner, and a beautiful, fully feathered and obviously healthy parrot in the opposite corner--one at the top and one at the bottom.

What do you all think?

Evelyn

[too&me]

I think that we can remain open on this question until we see what pictures are available to us & let Diane or Bonnie do some preweeding & some tentative arrangements for approval. the bare bird look may not be as appealing.

[too&me]

What do you think Anna? As far as your sanctuary name suggestions? Hope all went well with Uriel today:hgz: I know that is your big concern next to Katys health?

[Evelyn]

I think that we can remain open on this question until we see what pictures are available to us & let Diane or Bonnie do some preweeding & some tentative arrangements for approval. the bare bird look may not be as appealing.


It's gotta be something that pops out at you. We've got time to work on the cover.

Evelyn

[Don]

S'okay I got a question:

what is going to be different, if anything, from the scores of other "rescues" that are actually internment camps for birds ? So many of these place proclaim to be in it for the birds when actually they become a hoarding area for more birds than they can legitimate;y maintain. Those that say they rehome have such stringent qualification requirements that they themselves couldn't 'adopt' one of their own if they had to qualify, and if the applicant even sounds like they would breed the bird they are automatically denied - where are you with these tenets ? Do you believe birds should be with their own in kind - even to the definition of subspecies, do you think these parrots should be bred ?

Don

[Evelyn]

S'okay I got a question:

what is going to be different, if anything, from the scores of other "rescues" that are actually internment camps for birds ? So many of these place proclaim to be in it for the birds when actually they become a hoarding area for more birds than they can legitimate;y maintain. Those that say they rehome have such stringent qualification requirements that they themselves couldn't 'adopt' one of their own if they had to qualify, and if the applicant even sounds like they would breed the bird they are automatically denied - where are you with these tenets ? Do you believe birds should be with their own in kind - even to the definition of subspecies, do you think these parrots should be bred ?

Don


Don -

You don't know Anna if you don't know that she is not "like other rescues."

I would guess you are responding to her post, but I agree with you that a lot of so-called rescues and sanctuaries are hoarders, and those wanting free birds to sell and/or breed.

I haven't worked with any bird rescues other than Phoenix Landing, and that has been fairly recent. I have seen the other kind, though.

Phoenix Landing's requirements are reasonable, I think, They want their birds to be rehomed, in responsible homes.

I hope I don't ever have to give up a bird, but if I did, I would feel very comfortable giving it to Anna and confident in her ability to find a good home for it.

Incorporating isn't going to change the nature of her work. But it will give them some tax advantages.

Evelyn

[Don]

Evelyn, whatever gave you the idea that I thought incorporation papers would change the way anyone does their business ???

And no, I don't have a clue as to what Anna is doing, will be doing or her real goals -

Which is why I asked her.

Don, for the birds, and future generations.
donsbirds.com

[Bambam]

Anna..how about Featherhood :confused:

Freida

[Evelyn]

Evelyn, whatever gave you the idea that I thought incorporation papers would change the way anyone does their business ???

And no, I don't have a clue as to what Anna is doing, will be doing or her real goals -

Which is why I asked her.

Don, for the birds, and future generations.
donsbirds.com


I assumed you were wondering why she was forming a non-profit corporation as opposed to continuing the way she was. So much for mindreading, huh?

Evelyn

[Evelyn]

Evelyn, whatever gave you the idea that I thought incorporation papers would change the way anyone does their business ???

And no, I don't have a clue as to what Anna is doing, will be doing or her real goals -

Which is why I asked her.

Don, for the birds, and future generations.
donsbirds.com


Don -

Sorry. I didn't intend to jump on you. It's just that I think so much of Anna and have so much confidence in her that it would never occur me to question anything she said or did.

Evelyn

[Don]

And you feel the need to climb onto whatever I post - ever since I joined ToosTalk - a great incentive LOL and yet you expct me to contribute more ? I don't think so, I don't need your testing. I'll continue to post on which specifics I feel I can be possibly helpful. bye

[FoxersArtist]

Don:
I actually really appreciate these kind of questions and some of the points that Don made in this post are some of the major reasons Andy and I got into doing rescue. Many rescues have so many birds that they will eventually collapse in on themselves either because they don't want to place birds or because their expectations of other human beings is unrealistic.

If you want to know my opinion here it is:
Doing any sort of "rescue" is just as much a service to PEOPLE as it is to animals. I hear a lot of people say that they have a hard time doing rescue because it leaves them feeling BITTER and SCEPTICAL of people. They lose faith in the goodness of their own kind. When Andy and I come upon a situation where a bird has been badly neglected or abused, we are not angered by what we see or the person(s) responsible. Getting angry will not solve the problem at hand but likely only make it worse. So how can we help? We can take those birds out of those situations, rehabilitate the animals and do our best to find homes for them where they will likely never end up in a similar situation again. What does this gain us? We feel good because we are making a difference for our community. We're contributing...not just watching everyone else from the sidelines.

As far as the way many rescues handle themselves - that is maddening to me. I am angry when I hear about "sanctuaries" taking in "pet" birds. In my humble opinion, this is neither good for the animal who needs a lot of one on one human companionship nor the sanctuary who only has so many resources to provide the proper care for a limited number of birds. Only wild birds who cannot be rehabilitated should go to sanctuaries so that they can be where they want to be - with other wild birds. I have had a total of ONE bird that we were unable to rehabilitate. He was wild caught and I just sent him to live at a sanctuary where he can be with others like him. Those who really know birds cantell you that a bird will tell you what he wants. If he wants a person, you will know. If he wants another bird, be it the same species or a different species, he will tell you. If he wants nothing to do with you or anyone else, that will also be clear.

What good is a rescue or a santuary when it is all filled up? And for that matter, what good is a rescue who has so many animals that they can not care for them properly? If Andy and I cannot properly take care of the animals we have we should do one of two things. Find help or commit to less animals at a time. Our rescue seems to "fill up" again just as soon as a bird is placed, but we are talking about working with between 2-6 animals at a time. Just recently we had 6 fosters and that many birds demanded too much from us. We were in over our heads. What did we do about it? I put an ad in the paper asking for volunteers and lo and behold, we now have volunteers to clean cages, make toys, and socialize the animals. Everyone wins. Until we have a real facility and committed volunteers, Andy and I can only do so much and that is the way it will be. Until then we will have to rely on other folks in the community who can help foster until someone experienced can rehab that animal or find it a loving home.

Depending on the issues that any particular bird who comes here has, we end up fostering for anywhere between 2 weeks and 6 months. If the animal needs serious rehabilitation I don't see it as fair to let that animal go without having a much better grasp on life first! That's our whole purpose...finding what will will make a bird happy, letting them learn to fly, and then finding an environment where they can continue to grow. We actively seek out a new home as soon as a bird arrives, even if we know the bird will be staying quite a while.

So how do we judge who gets a bird and who doesn't? People who have loads of experience but no pet birds is always ideal but not very common and therefore not expected in most cases. Some people have experience but already have birds. I don't have a problem with this as long as I feel comfortable that they don't have a hoarding mentality - home inspections help but we also have come to know the hoarders quite well as they answer EVERY SINGLE ad we put out. Then there is the class of folks who want a bird and have no experience with birds. I have no problem with these people AS LONG AS they are willing to become educated, and this is where I can step in and teach people. I ask people to come visit our own flock to get some real hands on experience with them. That is the best tool for learning. Likewise, we do not turn people down who are out of state unless I am certain that the bird would not travel well. Out of state cantidates are harder because I cannot do a home inspection but detailed date stamped photos help. When adopting birds out of state I do my best to get to know the individual on a friendly basis before making a final decision so I have a better idea of what the environment will be like.

The bottom line is that when you become skilled at reading people, you can get a pretty good idea about how they intend to care for a bird. People are not perfect. I adopted a bird to someone this morning and watched her feed a horse a beer about 30 minutes later. Was this a fantastic idea? Probably not. Were all of her animals well fed, clean, happy, and healthy? Absolutely! Could she provide the best care possible for my bird? I believed so. We will not adopt birds to people who show an interest with little or no knowledge but are unwilling to learn, who are not willing to spend a little time with the bird prior to adoption, and those who cannot type a polite e-mail. Some screening is important, but it is unfortunate when people limit themselves so much so that no one ends up winning.
-Anna

[FoxersArtist]

PS: I haven't forgotten your ornament!!! I'll get it out to you at some point. :D
-Anna

[Don]

Hi Anna, you did not answer any point towards people that breed birds.

I do not think they were made in opposite genders to be sequestered in solitary confinement, but rather to perpetuate their kind.

So if a bird comes to you that would rather be a bird, where does it end up ?

Don

[FoxersArtist]

Hi Anna, you did not answer any point towards people that breed birds.

I do not think they were made in opposite genders to be sequestered in solitary confinement, but rather to perpetuate their kind.

So if a bird comes to you that would rather be a bird, where does it end up ?

Don

I have had several birds come in pairs and have sent several off to become a pair, now that you mention it. I think the problem with the pet industry starts with irresponsible breeders. At the same time, I see nothing wrong with responsible breeders who find responsible homes for their babies (we raise cockatiels once a year.) I would not allow most of my "rescues" to become breeders as many of them are in poor physical condition or elderly though "rehomed" birds may be another story if they would prefer to be paired up rather than to be a pet. The key here is to rehome these ones with responsible breeders who will provide for their physical and mental needs. I have talked with breeders that insist that a breeding pair of fill in the blank does not need toys to chew as well as any other form of stimulation. These sorts of ideals make no sense to me as a parrot's basic needs remain the same regardless of whether they are paired or pets.

I think it is somewhat cruel to try to force a bird that is used to being paired into becoming a human companion. These birds know what it's like to love their own kind and prefer it. A chick that is raised with humans learns to love humans and may not ever experience that bird to bird bond. Aside from watching them go through hard times hormonally, I disagree that pet parrots should be allowed to find another bird to bond with. If this were the case, we ought to ban breeding outright, let our stock of parrots die out in time and let nature alone!!! This, in my opinion is the ideal way for a parrot to live - in nature with other parrots, but lets face it, pet parrots are here now and will likely be here to stay. It is our jobs to make their lives in captivity as happy and healthy as possible. I hope that answers your question.
-Anna

[Don]

I see that we differ in our ideals. I believe we have responsibilities to both the birds and our own future to care for and nurture these birds to see that their species survive here.

We as a nation do not take from the wild since the WBCA was enacted in October 23, 1992. What we have is what we are responsible for - what we do with these has no imact on native populations, nor will it ever because of avian health restrictions, END andf other viral infections that would possibly be transfered.

As for hand fed birds being breeders, I'd prefer if all my birds were that ! I love the fact that I went out yesterday, scratched Iti Hoa's parents heads and beaks and got a second egg from them. Aviculture is a responsible animal husbandry !

Don

[FoxersArtist]

Don,
I certainly commend you for having breeders that are also pets! I think that is a wonderful ideal...I just don't know very many people who can pull it off! You are a very special fellow!

2 of our cockatiel pairs were handfed as babies and we had all 4 of them as pets before they paired up. They are still sweet birds and will allow andy or I to love on them, but I don't see a situation like this occuring frequently among breeders. I think their babies are better off as well...mine are always extra sweet. Unfortunately we see a lot of pairs that were never tamed and I just don't agree with trying to tame a couple of parent raised birds that are already a pair. Is it likely that doing so would yield results? I think it is doubtful. There are so many more advantages when working with a parrot from the time it is a chick onward.
-Anna

[Don]

Oh, believe me, the pet breeder is an exception, not all species, or members of any species will be as calm and easy going. I also have many older pairs that were imported when it was legal(have the green cards) and I would in no way want to force being a pet onto any of them, I despise the idea of 'breaking birds' into being pets, they are better off being birds and with their own kind. I have raised a few species to 3rd generation domestic and they have produced, to continue their species as pets and some as future breeders to fulfill their spaces in the scheme of life -
if WE do not make preparations for the species future they will be gone - do you want to tell your greatgrand children the only birds they can have are in pictures ? The only cockatoo they can hold is in a museum display ?


responsibility is like morality - it can be shared and taught, but never legislated, successfully.

Don

[FoxersArtist]

Oh, believe me, the pet breeder is an exception, not all species, or members of any species will be as calm and easy going. I also have many older pairs that were imported when it was legal(have the green cards) and I would in no way want to force being a pet onto any of them, I despise the idea of 'breaking birds' into being pets, they are better off being birds and with their own kind. I have raised a few species to 3rd generation domestic and they have produced, to continue their species as pets and some as future breeders to fulfill their spaces in the scheme of life -
if WE do not make preparations for the species future they will be gone - do you want to tell your greatgrand children the only birds they can have are in pictures ? The only cockatoo they can hold is in a museum display ?


responsibility is like morality - it can be shared and taught, but never legislated, successfully.

Don

Don,
Oh how I wish you were wrong about our parrots dwindling in the wild - and that is an issue indeed. I know that it is unlikely that these birds will end up being preserved in their natural habitat, but my heart still breaks to think that the only living parrots will be those kept in captivity. Somehow that takes so much away from what it truely means to be a parrot.
-Anna

[Don]

""but my heart still breaks to think that the only living parrots will be those kept in captivity. Somehow that takes so much away from what it truely means to be a parrot.""

As does anyones who has been artacted to these great birds !! But that only compounds our responsibility to each species, to assure they survive, they are obviously a very adaptable creature, they've lived and produced in homes with people for several hundred years by the european calandar, and how many generation of native peoples have kept them ?

To collect and sequester them is just as wrong as the owner who puts the bird out in the garage because of the noise - probably worse because the "sanctuary" is the end of the line for most birds - they never get the chance to leave , be it as a pet or to participate in their species future - that's life without parole !!

Someone please name a species, other than homosapien, that has survived in solitary confinement.....when in fact it is our duty to see that these avian species thrive !

What does Larry say - if not us - Who ? Well that applies for future generations of these species too ! Doesn't it ?

Don

[FoxersArtist]

Don,
I simply adore your enthusiasm.
-Anna

[Evelyn]

And you feel the need to climb onto whatever I post - ever since I joined ToosTalk - a great incentive LOL and yet you expct me to contribute more ? I don't think so, I don't need your testing. I'll continue to post on which specifics I feel I can be possibly helpful. bye


Don -

What in the Sam Hill are you talking about? And who is Sam Hill anyway?

I was inviting you to write something for the HappyBirdy Book. There is certainly no obligation for you to do so.

Evelyn

[Uncle]

At first blush - it appears that this thread has gotten a bit off track... but in fact it is right on track for helping Anna and Andy pick a name for their center.

Don and Anna - there is so much profound information in what both of you have shared with us in this thread.

We do our best with the abilities and knowledge we have - and in the end it will never be enough for the welfare and survival of our feathered friends.

Parrots have been on this earth for over sixty-five million years. That is 65,000,000 years. I bet you can't count that high.

They were here when the dinosaurs roamed the earth. They survived the KT barrier that happend thirty-five million years ago when something happened on the earth to wipe out all living creatures bigger than an ally cat. Parrots survived when not much else did.

After all the avian species have been through and then come to our modern age to become threatend, endangered, and extinct becuse of us.

Don is right - our grand children might only get to know about Macaws, Toos, and other species by reading about them in a book or going to a museum to see one that is stuffed.

Do some Googles for endangered parrots - you will actually get sick at your stomach. You will be surprised that the one you snuggle tonight is on the list.

It might be that responsible breeders and responsible parrot owners will be the ones that keep most species from dissappearing from the face of the earth.

[FoxersArtist]

And still we are conflicted about a name...Maybe I am being too picky...but i'm waiting for the one that makes me jump up and shout "THIS IS IT!"
-Anna

[too&me]

"Foxers Landing" ? or "Bear & Fox's House"

[Chrissy and Flock]

"Foxers Landing" ?

I like that one, it fits perfectly.

[Don]

Larry wrote: "Do some Googles for endangered parrots - you will actually get sick at your stomach. You will be surprised that the one you snuggle tonight is on the list."

So why do so many well intentioned people deny breeding when that is the ONLY way to keep that prediction from coming true ? And I'm not talking about the paltry $$ I'll make this season - I'm talking about there being an abundance of live parrots of all these species in 100 years !@!!!!!!

Don

[Don]

How about "Anna's Birds"

there are already 'landings'...

[too&me]

Don you are so right about breeders & zoo's being a stand in bank for species who may have no habitat remaining to survive. I think some people have a very negative view of breeders & Zoo's, some justified. Like most things one cannot paint all with the same dirty brush, you have to make an effort to learn what is worthy & what is unacceptable. An open mind is a good thing it allows us to learn not assume.

[Evelyn]

"Foxers Landing" ? or "Bear & Fox's House"


I would think they were rescuing foxes and bears, but then my mind has a weird bent sometimes. :confused:


Evelyn

[Don]

I was by no means inferring that all breeders be considered equal, in their knowledge, ethics, or their husbandry practices. I know there may be several ways to achieve the same ends, and many more opinions by those who only imagine.

Don

[birdie]

Anna and Andy's Parrot House
**a home for parrots in need**

[Bambam]

Anna..what about FeatherHood:dancered:

[Julie]

Birds of a feather....

Benny's Roosting spot.....

[Bambam]

one more try Anna..I've been trying to submit Featherhood..but the posts keep disappearing:confused:

[Chrissy and Flock]

Bambam, I am seeing them okay, maybe a gliche in your system ?

[Wanda and Flock]

Bat Habitat:bat::rofl:

[Evelyn]

Bat Habitat:bat::rofl:


Love it because we know the backstory. But anybody who doesn't know will be sending her bats.:)

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

"Foxers Landing" ? or "Bear & Fox's House"
HaHaHa!!! It is soooo me BUT I think outsiders who don't know about Foxer may have images of predator vs prey "flying" through their minds. :D
-Anna

[FoxersArtist]

I'm going to rattle all these ideas around in my brain for a while. I do like Featherhood though.
-Anna

[FoxersArtist]

Birds of a feather....

Benny's Roosting spot.....


The Twin Bennies Foundation. LOL! :rofl:

(BTW - I have decided...we do have two Benny birds but Benny Boy is Benagin (s/p?) and BatToo is Benjamin (s/p?)...I'm going to have to look up those spellings. )

[Julie]

It will take a while to get used to, but I'm sure it will work out for the best to have slightly different names!!!!

As you know hubby has been gone since Monday, and every night I have been taking Carl out of his cone so he can relax, eat, and do a little light preening..... He has not bit me when mom and I go to put his cone back on. I am shocked!!!!! He definately gives me warning shots to let me know he is not happy, but he has not broken the skin once. May be he is now feeling like he is not "above" me in the pecking order any more..... I can hope!!!!

[too&me]

Or "Featherton" just can't resist adding to the list.:wink:

[Diane, Clouds assignment]

Foxers Feathered Haven

[Diane, Clouds assignment]

Sloan's Feathered Retreat
Sloan's Feathered Haven

[Evelyn]

Or Feathers and Beaks? Can't be Beaks and Feather because of the disease.

Evelyn

[Wanda and Flock]

FeatherLight

Bird Beakon

Parrot Beacon

I still say BatHouse:rofl: just kidding, just kidding!

[Evelyn]

How about "Too Many Toos?"

Just kidding, too.

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

How about "Too Many Toos?"

Just kidding, too.

Evelyn

I love you guys!
-Anna

[Larry, Baby and Me]

Hmmm??? How about - Birds Of A Feather.

[too&me]

"Too Much"

[EasySpirit]

Do you have a favorite pet, friend, mentor etc? Should I have opened a pet shop it would be named Ben's Friends. He was a springer spanial mixed dog that loved everyone and all creatures. We took in a stray kitten in a ditch on a rainy day and it was dark. Kitty came home and proceeded to suckle on Ben, a neutered male dog. :eek: Now kittens will suckle past time and for kitty this was a comfort. Ben, he just went along with it.:smiles::hugs:

So, do you have a favorite pet that exhibits just the behaviors you are looking for...you can then use that as part of the name of your sanctuary.

[Evelyn]

Anna -

If you are not going to use the name "Birds of a Feather," please let me know.

I think that is the perfect title for our book.

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

Anna -

If you are not going to use the name "Birds of a Feather," please let me know.

I think that is the perfect title for our book.

Evelyn

Evelyn,
I think you should use that name for the book. It would sound beautiful. I haven't yet decided on a name...really having a hard time finding that one name that makes me go "YEAH!" It'll come to me...
-Anna

[FoxersArtist]

What do you all think of "Cooper's Corner?" She was our first bird and got us into rescue.
-Anna

[Chrissy and Flock]

Very appropriate name IMHO what better than naming it after the reason you are doing what you do.

[FoxersArtist]

...Or maybe "Andy & Anna's Parrot Place." That's kind of cute.
-Anna

[Patty, Linus and Co.]

...Or maybe "Andy & Anna's Parrot Place." That's kind of cute.
-Anna

More like Parrot Palace!

[Chrissy and Flock]

Thats for sure Patty, I spent quite a bit of time online the other night looking at Anna's videos.

[too&me]

I like Cooper's Corner!

[Evelyn]

Anna -

I think Cooper's Corner is perfect.

Phoenix Landing and The Gabriel Foundation have stores on their websites about the birds that gave rise to the name. Does Cooper have a story?

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

Thats for sure Patty, I spent quite a bit of time online the other night looking at Anna's videos.

That's funny! I suck people into sitting on their computers to watch countless parrot videos. LOL. I'll tell the birds to stop being a bad influence!
-Anna;)

[Chrissy and Flock]

No Anna noooooooooooooo I enjoy watching them. Your birds are amazing, I am thinking that its the influence you have on them.

[birdie]

Anna, here's another thought...

wings of love rescue

[FoxersArtist]

Anna, here's another thought...

wings of love rescue
I know someone in Phoenix who has a "wings of love" rescue. That's a coincidence for ya!
-Anna

[Julie]

Feathered follies....

[birdie]

I know someone in Phoenix who has a "wings of love" rescue. That's a coincidence for ya!
-Anna
Hmmmm:confused: must have been the aliens :alien:putting that into my head yesterday! :haha:

[too&me]

that's it "Feathered Aliens"