PETA is a Health and Safety Hazzard !@!!

[Don]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PILlSj1hsHU&feature=related

Probably not for the faint of heart or weak knee'd....

[Larry, Baby and Me]

Don,

I didn't see anything objectional in that video. It was all words and no graphics at all. And it does bear out the research I have done regarding PETA.

Thanks for the post.

[too&me]

I can't watch before bed but I know about their dark side. I really don't know of anything they have done that is positive. Maybe bringing to light some issues involving animals in food production. The rest of what they spread is often staged or very old footage of things that have not been done in years. The fact that they cry save the animals as a fund raiser and then deliberately take them out of shelters kill them and dump them, both illegally. Often these are pets who were very adoptable taken by PETA people who lie about where they are taking them. So dishonest to take money from people who want to help the animals & instead it is used to kill them. :sad:

[FoxersArtist]

I can't watch before bed but I know about their dark side. I really don't know of anything they have done that is positive. Maybe bringing to light some issues involving animals in food production. The rest of what they spread is often staged or very old footage of things that have not been done in years. The fact that they cry save the animals as a fund raiser and then deliberately take them out of shelters kill them and dump them, both illegally. Often these are pets who were very adoptable taken by PETA people who lie about where they are taking them. So dishonest to take money from people who want to help the animals & instead it is used to kill them. :sad:


I would actually be very interested in learning about just HOW they do things in food production these days. Are there many laws regarding slaughter houses and the like? I watched Don's video and then clicked on several others. Among them was a video with lots of footage of slaughter houses and I have to tell you - I was so sick to my stomach after watching that I couldn't eat dinner. I most certainly don't agree with PETA and I suspect that the video I watched was a bit slanted, showing only the worst of the worst that does not accurately represent most of the industry...but I would be curious to learn more to know JUST WHAT is really going on with cows, chickens, sheep, pigs and the like.
-Anna

[too&me]

I am not up on the animal to food conversion-death & killing is just not nice under any circumstances. I was referring to the animal care & rules covering what the investigators can & cannot do in research situations. I am familiar with how labs are run now days & that the investigating researchers are strictly regulated & controlled by federal & state rules governing the animals well being. They must not be allowed to be mistreated or to suffer in pain. The people who feed, clean & care for them are the ones who also provide enrichment activities and are not working for the investigator but only for the animal care end of things. The animal care staff report directly to Veterinarians who enforce the level of care and check them on a routine basis. The vast majority of animals in labs are mice & rats who are specially bred and very expensive.

[Evelyn]

I would actually be very interested in learning about just HOW they do things in food production these days. Are there many laws regarding slaughter houses and the like? I watched Don's video and then clicked on several others. Among them was a video with lots of footage of slaughter houses and I have to tell you - I was so sick to my stomach after watching that I couldn't eat dinner. I most certainly don't agree with PETA and I suspect that the video I watched was a bit slanted, showing only the worst of the worst that does not accurately represent most of the industry...but I would be curious to learn more to know JUST WHAT is really going on with cows, chickens, sheep, pigs and the like.
-Anna

Anna -

I have a ton of stuff on this subject (not counting PETA's propaganda), and it is as bad as they say it is. The animal is a product to the producers--not anything with feelings.

Evelyn

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

Anna -

I have a ton of stuff on this subject (not counting PETA's propaganda), and it is as bad as they say it is. The animal is a product to the producers--not anything with feelings.

Evelyn

Evelyn


If all that I watched was not propaganda, I am truely horrified by what I saw. I don't believe that going on strike and refusing to eat meat or buy leather will really make a difference, though I wish I knew how I could make a difference. If we don't already have laws in place regarding the manner in which a food animal is killed, we need to. Though do you think it would do any good or do you think things would continue to go on as they do? I saw cattle being scalded alive, chickens being literally thrown into crates to be taken to the slaughter houses, sheep with huge wounds where their flesh was ripped away, veal who were too lame to walk, pigs who could not even turn around in their stalls (yes, I know, to keep them from rolling on top of their young), etc. I am very, VERY ignorant about this subject.
-Anna

[Evelyn]

Anna -

I'll get some of my stuff together.

Nothing is going to change things immediately. As with most changes, it's going to be gradual and take a long time. What is important is that we keep chipping away at it. It's going to take making people aware of what goes on and then making them so mad about it that they put pressure on the politicians.

You are way too young to remember segregation, but I remember it vividly. It was a travesty we can't even imagine happening now, but back then almost everybody accepted it as normal. Blacks could not go to white schools; there were separate water fountains and toilets for blacks and whites; blacks could not sit at white lunch counters; many restaurants prohibited blacks altogether; blacks and whites could not marry; blacks could not go to white restaurants; swimming pools were segregated; and, of course, blacks had to sit at the back of the bus. We are not 100% where we ought to be yet, but progress is still being made, as evidenced by Barack Obama. I'm concerned about his lack of experience, but electing a black president will go a long way in the quest for racial equality.

Evelyn

[FoxersArtist]

Anna -

I'll get some of my stuff together.

Nothing is going to change things immediately. As with most changes, it's going to be gradual and take a long time. What is important is that we keep chipping away at it. It's going to take making people aware of what goes on and then making them so mad about it that they put pressure on the politicians.

You are way too young to remember segregation, but I remember it vividly. It was a travesty we can't even imagine happening now, but back then almost everybody accepted it as normal. Blacks could not go to white schools; there were separate water fountains and toilets for blacks and whites; blacks could not sit at white lunch counters; many restaurants prohibited blacks altogether; blacks and whites could not marry; blacks could not go to white restaurants; swimming pools were segregated; and, of course, blacks had to sit at the back of the bus. We are not 100% where we ought to be yet, but progress is still being made, as evidenced by Barack Obama. I'm concerned about his lack of experience, but electing a black president will go a long way in the quest for racial equality.

Evelyn

I certainly hope that 10-15 years down the way we feel the same way about slaughter houses - that allowing them to suffer so greatly would be a travesty.
-Anna

[Evelyn]

I certainly hope that 10-15 years down the way we feel the same way about slaughter houses - that allowing them to suffer so greatly would be a travesty.
-Anna



Me, too. Sooner would be better.

Evelyn