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Dot
01-14-2008, 06:41 PM
Folks, the AR people have huge lobbies. We have to fight them in each state. Washington state residents need to fight this.

If you are a Washington resident:

Here is the web site to start taking action-find your rep and let them know damn fast what is going on is not in the best interest of their voting constituents:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/memberemail/Default.aspx?Chamber=H


Creating provisions relating to pet dealers.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2511&year=2007

Below are selections from the Original Bill. Please take time to read it. The AR folks will see to it that we cannot have our pets. What small business or breeder can afford to keep these kinds of records?

Dot

The animal has no known congenital or hereditary condition that
28 adversely affects the health of the animal at the time of sale, or that
29 is likely to adversely affect the health of the animal in the future....


A pet dealer shall maintain a written record
37 on the health, status, and disposition of each animal for three years
HB 2511 p. 2
1 which includes the current year and the past two years. The record
2 shall include all of the information that the dealer is required to
3 disclose under section 3 of this act, including a list of the names and
4 addresses of persons from whom animals are received and to whom animals
5 are sold, whether there were complaints by a purchaser regarding the
6 health of the animal, whether the animal was returned, and, if so, the
7 reason given for that return. All animal transactions shall be listed
8 on the records and these records shall be made available upon request,
9 to any agency responsible for enforcement of chapter 16.52 RCW as
10 defined in RCW 16.52.015.


conspicuous location a notice stating that purchasers of animals have
18 specific rights under law and that a written statement of the rights is
19 available upon request by any interested party. The notice shall be in
20 one hundred-point type and read as follows:
21 "Purchasers of animals from this pet dealer are entitled to specific
22 rights under the law. Purchasers must be provided a written copy of
23 the rights at the time of sale. Prospective purchasers may receive a
24 copy of the rights from this pet dealer upon request."

Every pet dealer of an animal sold with the representation that
30 the animal is registered or registrable with a registry shall, in
31 addition to the notices in this section, provide the purchaser a
32 written notice, signed by the purchaser and the pet dealer at the time
33 of sale, which reads as follows:
34 "A pedigree or a registration does not assure proper breeding
35 condition, health, quality, or claims to lineage."

(2) Nothing in this chapter shall limit prosecution for violation
12 of any criminal statute or of any other law.
13 (3) Nothing in this chapter shall preclude the imposition of
14 punitive damages otherwise available at law.

Dot
01-17-2008, 06:55 PM
Cross posting permitted
Washington State has two pending "pet dealer" bills that will affect all breeders of cats, dogs and birds who produce more than 20 offspring a year. For bird breeders, particularly breeders of small birds, this bill is quite ominous in its requirements. Most bird breeders and hobbyists in WA are opposing this bill. Approximately 50 people testified at this morning's House hearing to oppose the bill. Many of them will also appear at this afternoon's Senate hearing.

For those interested in becoming involved in legislative issues, but who are not experienced in the process, the broadcast hearings (see below) are a good tool to learn from.

The bird breeders in WA are organized and effective. They let their legislators know what they want. If you watch and listen to the hearings, you can learn how a hearing is conducted, and how to testify effectively (and also learn what is not effective).

Link to the two companion bills:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2511


1. House Labor & Commerce Committee heard their bill (HB 2511) this morning - you can watch the archived hearing online at
<h (http://www.tvw.org/media/mediaplayer.cfm?evid=2008011054&TYPE=V&CFID=2568238&CFTOKEN=8cf664d9160a3276-89ADEAFE-3048-349E-4EF234A54F03CF67&bhcp=1)ttp://www.tvw.org/media/mediaplayer.cfm?evid=2008011054&TYPE=V&CFID=2568238&CFTOKEN=8cf664d9160a3276-89ADEAFE-3048-349E-4EF234A54F03CF67&bhcp=1 (http://www.tvw.org/media/mediaplayer.cfm?evid=2008011054&TYPE=V&CFID=2568238&CFTOKEN=8cf664d9160a3276-89ADEAFE-3048-349E-4EF234A54F03CF67&bhcp=1)>


The HB 2511 hearing starts on the archived video at about 19:22 minutes - put your cursor over the little bar above the words "related / player formats / bills, and move the little red dot to 19:22 (or thereabouts)


2. The Senate Government Operations committee is hearing their Senate their companion "pet dealers" bill (SB 6408) today at 3:30 pm PST

The hearing will be broadcast live this afternoon, and then archived. You can listen to it live at the following link
<http://www.tvw.org/media/liveevents.cfm?&CFID=2563358&CFTOKEN=89ea7b99a032688b-88606324-3048-349E-4EC9D0CC4FAAD052&bhcp=1>

Genny Wall


The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man's spiritual nature, of his feelings and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone - the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men. To protect that right, every unjustifiable intrusion by the government upon the privacy of the individual, whatever the means employed, must be deemed a violation of the Fourth Amendment. And the use, as evidence in a criminal proceeding, of facts ascertained by such intrusion must be deemed a violation of the Fifth.
--Justice Louis Brandeis OLMSTEAD v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438 (1928)

Larry, Baby and Me
01-17-2008, 09:15 PM
"including a list of the names and addresses of persons from whom animals are received and to whom animals are sold.."

Hmmm??? They will want us to register our guns next.